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  • Is there some formatting policy that game titles need to be in italics?

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    • It's the rule in general to italicize titles of long works such movies, video games & TV shows. I was thinking of helping cleaning up the pages by adding the italics, but if you do not wish for me to do so, I can refrain. Feel free to let me know if you need help with anything! - Logan, FANDOM CTM

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    • I was just curious, I wasn't aware it was the standard, however looking around at a few other gaming Fandoms it appears to be so. There's likely several thousand references to the various game titles across the 2055 pages here, it would be quite an undertaking to get them all. I suppose I could use an AutoWikiBrowser type bot, but it's been years since I've used one and I would need to dig into how they work again. By all means, feel free to do them if you wish, but we tend to be sticklers for uniformity around here, so getting them all would be of concern to us.

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    • I'll allocate some time for the task shortly and will try my best to get them all.

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    • While I start to chip away at this task, I'd like to ask --- is there a reason the quotes on the pages are underneath the opening paragraph instead of at the top of the page? Is it for SEO purposes, a decision the administrative team came to, or just something that happened long ago that eventually became the norm?

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    • I believe we made that decision many years ago, don't remember any specific reason as to why.

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    • ReapTheChaos wrote: By all means, feel free to do them if you wish, but we tend to be sticklers for uniformity around here, so getting them all would be of concern to us.

      As I was working on this, I noticed that you undid it on the Brodie pages. A bit confusing, as you allowed me to do so.

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    • Well on that issue, I don't know what happened there. The only thing I recall was making a minor grammatical change to Haven1234's edit.

      Aside from that, I have some new concerns. I was under the understanding that you were only going to add italics to the game titles, but after looking at a handful of your edits, you seem to be doing much more. You're making grammatical and punctuation changes, changing sizes of images, and much more that we never agreed to. Can you explain why you're doing this?

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    • I'm sorry, I didn't think fixing grammar and punctuation was something that needed to be asked; just a matter of an error is there and it needed fixing.

      I thought the photos should be made standard 250px size as they looked better but I should have asked first, so I apologize in that instance.

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    • It's more than fixing simple grammar mistakes, you're unnecessarily changing contractions like he's and doesn't to he is and does not. You're changing piped links to full ones, and removing piped links with 's and adding them after the link. You're also adding quotation marks around mission names.

      On the Vito Scalatta (II) page you removed the link to the Mafia Series from the opening paragraph. On Maria Scaletta's page you changed "She is the widow of" to "She was the widow of", making it past tense. Our policy is to write all articles in present tense unless it's something that happened prior to the game coming out.

      You've added links to both headers and image galleries, which we don't do here. You've also made game titles italic in headers, which I don't feel is necessary as it disrupts uniformity.

      My understanding was that you would be changing game titles only. While some of the edits you made were fine, a great many others were not, many of which go against our established policies and practices. I don't see much choice but to try and undo all these edits, good and bad. I can go through on my own later and address the game titles later.

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    • ReapTheChaos wrote: You've added links to both headers and image galleries, which we don't do here. You've also made game titles italic in headers, which I don't feel is necessary as it disrupts uniformity.

      I don't recall doing so? I don't recall doing any edits on image galleries. As for game titles being italic on headers, you did say that for consistency's sake to go through all the pages and change the game titles to italics, you did not specify to only do so in some circumstances.

      Re: Maria Scaletta "is" to "was," my mistake there. As for adding quotation marks around mission titles, that was under the same vein as adding italics; the general rule. Contractions I changed as I found them to be 'informal' and I thought the clean-up would be appreciated, but if the current format is preferred, then by all means.

      It was all in good faith, trying to spruce up the wikia. Piped links were kept, but 's that were inside were changed, something I did out of practice as the other wiki's adhere to those standards. My apologies for that.

      My understanding was that while I discussed changing the game titles to italics, the other edits were just edits I was doing as a contributor to the wiki, and I was unaware that I needed to get approval and permission for every edit. Clearly, we've gotten off on a bit on the wrong foot! :)

      I shall refrain from my current editing practices, as so not to further disrupt the established practices of this wiki.

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    • You added the image gallery links on the Joe Barbaro and Vito Scaletta (Mafia II) pages, and you linked Mafia II in a header on the Eddie Scarpa page. I haven't looked over every page you edited though.

      As for the he's to he is, Qstlijku is our resident grammar expert here, so I'll defer to him which one is best, but I know that one of the features of many auto editing bots is to suggest changing those type of things, often unnecessarily.

      You also changed links inside of infoboxes from the shortened "Mafia" to the full "Mafia: The City of Lost Heaven". We prefer the shortened version of Mafia (which is the actual name of the game btw, "The City of Lost Heaven" is a fan based addition) in infoboxes due to the limited space.

      As for quotation marks on mission names, I will bring that up for discussion. I made the decision on the game titles on my own yesterday, but we usually prefer to make major changes to formatting like that as a consensus of the community, though it's been quite a long time since we had anything resembling a community around here.

      I have no doubt you made the edits in good faith, it's just the shear number of edits is going to take time to go through them all. In the future we should spend more time ironing out the specifics before we proceed.

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    • ReapTheChaos wrote:

      You also changed links inside of infoboxes from the shortened "Mafia" to the full "Mafia: The City of Lost Heaven". We prefer the shortened version of Mafia (which is the actual name of the game btw, "The City of Lost Heaven" is a fan based addition)

      I only did that because the page itself is called "Mafia: The City of Lost Heaven." If the official title itself is Mafia I would recommend renaming the page title as such, as a fan-given title should not be the name of an official page, no?

      And agreed, in future we shall iron out all the kinks before making any sort of edits in the same vein.

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    • MJLogan95 wrote:

      If the official title itself is Mafia I would recommend renaming the page title as such, as a fan-given title should not be the name of an official page, no?

      We discussed that on a few occasions here. When it started or where it came from are unclear, but at some point someone tacked "The City of Lost Heaven" to the name and it took off to the point where everyone started calling it that and it just stuck. Even official gaming and retail sites call it that, including the people at Mafia Game and 2K. Every other language site for the game here on Fandom uses it.

      I'd love to change it, but it's so ingrained with the fans as the proper name that it would likely piss a lot of them off.

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